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the oil filter and circulation system on an early
3 Litre (or any other Vintage Bentley) be maintained
as original or can it, or should it be improved
or replaced? There have been several attempts
in the past and apparently with good results.
One disadvantage is that originality is altered.
In some cases, drastically. There have been several
replacement filter systems suggested in the past.
Going a step further are the modifications that
were done to The Great American Racer, an early
3 Litre owned by Dick Burdick that has made several
rally runs across the United States. The objective
was to limit engine wear and increase reliability
with a modern oil pump/filter system on chassis
392.
View photos of this system on his chassis
page. When the engine is started, the pressure
is instantly high and remains high at idle and
under acceleration and deceleration. It is not
just a modern oil filter. His mechanic said a
modern oil filter alone would not work because
it would restrict flow efficiency. A modern oil
filter needs a pressurized system.
Vintage Bentley owner and restorer Alan
Smith made these comments which readers
will find of interest:
"A few years ago
some American Bentley owners such as Bill Porter
fitted pre pressure oil systems to their engines.
These systems used an external oil pressure source
that would pressurize the oil system prior to
starting up the engine, the theory being that
this would minimize engine wear as the engine
normally rotates several times before the oil
pressure pump is able to bring the system up to
pressure.
Looking at the photos of Dick Burdick's car I
can see that the oil filter system is the same
as on my engine in that he has fitted a full flow
oil filter but there is something else that I
can't identify but I suspect that it is an external
pressure device.
The modern full flow oil filter that I fitted
to my car is the same system as on a modern car
but on a modern car the filter is fitted to the
side of the crankcase to an internal oilway.
I don't know anyone that has fitted this external
oil pressure system, the only way to know if this
system does work is to do comparison tests on
an engine that is fitted with the system and on
an engine that is not fitted with this system.
I suppose it's just too much work so we will never
know!
Perhaps you can ask the mechanic if such tests
were carried out but I bet that they weren't,
so this theory is really unproven.
The filter system that you have (on your car)
at the moment is fine, is full flow but liable
to failure if water is in the oil. The solution
is to fit a full flow external oil filter which
has a bypass fitted such as the one on my car,
making sure that the filter is mounted in the
correct direction relative to the oil flow (direction
arrows on the filter nozzles will show this).
As regards wear on start up, a good synthetic
multi grade oil will help but as nowadays the
cars are just languishing in the garages and never
taken out this problem with wear is really
just academic."
My response was that my discussion with Dick Burdick's
mechanic/restorer was about 20 years ago and the
Burdick museum was closed and the cars sold. I
would think the subject of filters and oil pumps
is worthy of discussion. After all, we do not
want our engines to wear out and technology has
changed. Is there a better way or was W.O. Bentley's
way adequate? What are your solutions? Do you
have a revised system? Is there one being produced
to our cars? Your comments please.
I would like to thank the
following vintage Bentley enthusiasts for their
contributions in November & December 2013:
Alan C Smith, Algys Autos Ltd, Bernd Lehmann,
Bill Allsopp, Bob Rippon, Callum Grant, Georg
Weidmann, Ger Konings, Gregory Porter, Hilary
and Tom King, J D Medcalf, Jim Spillings, John
Anderson, John Mcquay, John Murch, John Prescott,
John Sage, John Skidmore, Malcolm Hobbs, Mark
Andersdon, Michael Clements, Michael Hanning,
Michael Muellmann, Mike McManus, Mike Tebbett,
Neil Davies, Nigel Ormond Smith, Paul Spencer,
Peter Graham, Piers Fox, Rob Beckett, Roley Fraser,
Seth Rowden, Stanley Bauer, Steve Welton, Steven
Russell, Stuart Brainerd, Tim Houlding, Timo De
Ruig, Tom P, Warren Cox.
Happy motoring in 2014... Happy new year! |
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Robert McLellan, December 26, 2013 |
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The
conspiracy to kill off Bentley Motors |
By Alan C Smith - Vintage
Bentley owner & restorer |
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"The reader may perhaps consider this title a
little dramatic but a document has come into my posession
that can throw some new light over the demise of Bentley
Motors. This new document, of which I will apprise the
reader shortly, set my mind racing and I started to
reread all the relevant Bentley literature.
There is a difference between just reading through a
book and reading to obtain information from a book.
Innocuous statements out of context can be read in a
different way when a particular theme is being pursued.
In this article I write down my conclusions but ask
any reader who has better knowledge to come forward
and enlighten us where there is any doubt about the
subject matter." |
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The
1930s adventures of 4½-litre Reg JB 1850 |
Memories of a super-charged 4½-litre
Bentley in a variety of countries. |
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"Reading of other's experiences
with vintage cars has filled me with nostalgia for one
of my own of long ago surely one of the most
entertaining high performance cars ever made
a supercharged 4½-litre Bentley. I shall always
remember my first sight of the 'blower'. I had an ordinary
4½-litre at the time and had driven up to H.
M. Bentley's in Hanover Street to discuss some modification
and there in the showroom stood the perfect car,
a 4½ with a shining black open four-seater body
with screen folded flat and two aeroscreens in position:
I had to have it and a deal was struck. 'H.M.' had had
the engine stripped and new bearings fitted as well
as everything else possible done and I started off with
a virtually new car and drove it 75,000 miles with only
normal decoking and brake relining having to be done
in the course of them." |
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The author is 1930s owner
of Reg JB 1850 |
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Dec 24, 2013
- New info and photographs received from
John Skidmore for Chassis Nos. 358,
NX3461,
ML1515
& FB3320 |
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Dec 23, 2013
- Info and photographs received from Tim
Houlding for his Chassis No. AX1663 |
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Dec 23, 2013
- New info and photographs added for Chassis
No. AH1476 |
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Dec 21, 2013
- Info and photographs received from J D
Medcalf for his Chassis Nos. LM1345
& AB3351
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Dec 20, 2013
- Information received from Georg Weidmann
for his Chassis No. SL3059 |
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Dec 19, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
No. 1236 |
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Dec 18, 2013
- Info and photographs received from John
Skidmore for Chassis No. NT3126 |
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Dec 15, 2013
- Info and photograph received from Michael
Muellmann for his Chassis No. LR2780 |
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Dec 11, 2013
- Info and photograph received from Ger
Konings for Chassis No. LM1345 |
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Dec 09, 2013
- New information received from Stuart Brainerd
for Chassis No. NH2741 |
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Dec 06, 2013
- Information received from Peter Graham
for his Chassis No. SL3074 |
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Dec 05, 2013
- Info and photographs received from Nigel
Ormond-Smith for his Chassis No. XT3635 |
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Dec 02, 2013
- New info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. FS3602,
KR2678,
PB3545,
WT2270
& KL3588 |
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Dec 01, 2013
- Information received from Callum Grant
for Chassis No. 682 |
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Nov 28, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
No. NX3467 |
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Nov 28, 2013
- New info and photographs added for Chassis
No. BR2372 |
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Nov 28, 2013
- Information received from Warren Cox for
Chassis No. DS3570 |
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Nov 27, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. HP380
& KM3092 |
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Nov 25, 2013
- Info and photograph received from Piers
Fox for his Chassis No. MF3158 |
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Nov 25, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. PB3546,
RC45
& TN1561 |
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Nov 23, 2013
- New info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. HB3406,
RN3043
& KM3093 |
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Nov 23, 2013
- New information received from Mark Andersdon
for his Chassis No. AH1490 |
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Nov 20, 2013
- New info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. 1084
& YX5103 |
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Nov 18, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. MD2459
& RN3036 |
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Nov 18, 2013
- Info and photographs received from John
Skidmore for Chassis No. 1084
and for this
'Unknown' Bentley |
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Nov 17, 2013
- Info and photographs received from John
Murch for his Chassis No. 602 |
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Nov 16, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. AX1652,
AP324
& 640 |
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Nov 15, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. 214
& RT1544 |
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Nov 13, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. 964
& ML1509 |
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Nov 13, 2013
- Information received from Mike Tebbett
for Chassis No. 479 |
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Nov 12, 2013
- Information received from John Anderson
for Chassis No. 17 |
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Nov 11, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
Nos. WK2661
& FT3217 |
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Nov 11, 2013
- Information received from Steven Russell
for Chassis No. RL3444 |
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Nov 10, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
No. VF4019 |
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Nov 09, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
No. KR2679 |
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Nov 09, 2013
- Information received from Roley Fraser
for Chassis No. AH1477 |
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Nov 07, 2013
- Response
received from Alan Smith to 'Bentley Clinic'
question on 'Oil Filter' |
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Nov 06, 2013
- Info and photographs received from John
Sage for Chassis Nos. BR2355
& DE1206 |
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Nov 06, 2013
- Info and photographs added for Chassis
No. RL3448 |
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Nov 05, 2013
- Info and photograph received from Timo
de Ruig for Chassis No. LT1592 |
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Nov 05, 2013
- New info and photograph added for Chassis
No. 159 |
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Nov 05, 2013
- Info and photographs received from John
McQuay for his Chassis No. 925 |
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Nov 02, 2013
- Information received from Paul Spencer
for Chassis No. LT1589 |
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Nov 01, 2013
- Bentley Clinic: New
question posted by Stanley Bauer about
'Information on Taylor bodies' |
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D E N T I F I E D B E N
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Request
to identify this 1924 3/4½ Litre Bentley
"Any ideas on this one? The
photograph was taken at the VSCC meeting (August 2013)
at Prescott Speed Hill Climb, listed in programme as a
1924 3/4½ Litre, Engine size 4566cc driven by Dr.
Brian Hamilton" John Skidmore
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