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1923 Bentley 3 Litre |
Chassis No. 164
Engine No. 315
Registration No. MF 1632 |
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From 'Photo Discoveries'
February 2009 (Page 43)
"Wayne Merlon from the parliamentary
office of New South Wales sent in
photographs of cars owned by the father
(a Mr Lupp) of a friend's brother-in-law
during WWII. The two Three Litre Bentleys
(below) bearing the same registration
number MF 1632 would appear to be
different cars, rather than a change
of body. While we await a definitive
answer from the Bentley Drivers' Club,
does anyone else have a comment? And,
if MF 1632 is still around, what body
does it have now?"
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Is this the real #164? |
Or is this the real #164? |
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BDC responds March
2009 issue):
"We have to admit to being
a little mystified over the identity
of the touring Three Litre in Photo
Discoveries (February). The photograph
is one we have never previously seen
and we cannot identify the car. We
can only assume it was a temporary
transfer of the number plate.
The Cricklewood chassis records show
that MF 1632 was the registration
number given to chassis 164 delivered
in August, 1923, to one H S Hewitt
of the Automotive Engineering Company.
It was also used for experimental
work by Bentlevs. Hewitt was an engineer
who had a good deal of input into
the design of vintage Bcntleys, as
well as the manufacture of various
parts including BHB pistons. Chassis
164 was the third long chassis (10ft
l0in) car and was fitted with a Freestone
and Webb fabric saloon body, a contemporary
photograph of which shows it to be
almost certainly identical to the
upper photograph on page 43.
The Freestone and Webb car was kept
by Hewitt until at least 1931. The
Cricklewood service record for chassis
164 stops in 1938, although there
were two further owners pre-WWII.
Chassis 164 appears to have retained
its Freestone and Webb body until
1946. when it was acquired, still
registered MF 1632. by one Maurice
Brierley. who described it as 'very
rough'. He removed said body, cut
the chassis to 9ft 6in and installed
a 4.5-litre engine. The weight of
the car, with a new two-seater competition
body, was reduced to 22cwt in 1948,
when, after a brief competition career,
Brierley wrapped it round a tree at
a VSCC Prescott meeting, writing the
car off. The frame is thought to have
been scrapped, although this has never
been confirmed. Other bits may have
been built into other Bentleys."
- Alan Bodfish Administrator,
BDC Archive
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1948 |
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"Michael Bowler
was at the 1948 Prescott meeting and
sent in the attached photograph of
the Bentley after Brierley's crash,
just beyond what used to be known
as Allard's Gap. Given the damage
to the cockpit area, Brierley was
lucky to have been thrown out before
the car hit the tree. He lived to
tell the tale." - Ed, The
Automobile
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Source:
A vintage Bentley enthusiast
Posted: May 06, 2009 |
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Tim
Houlding responds |
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HEWITT'S
BENTLEY
"I was fascinated to see
the two photographs of the 1923
Three Litre Bentley, registration
MF 1632, published in Photo
Discoveries in the February
issue, and then Alan Bodfish's
interesting letter published
in March.
The two former pictures are
of the same car. The lower precedes
the upper one chronologically.
This lower photograph is indeed
of chassis 164 bearing its original
touring coachwork, but some
time after manufacture as it
is fitted with front-wheel brakes.
As Alan Bodfish points out,
Mr Hewitt, the original owner,
was a very close associate of
W O Bentley: the H of Bentley's
BHB pistons is the very same
Hewitt.
Such a close working relationship
would have resulted in Hewitt's
Bentley being kept up to date
with works modifications. In
effect, MF 1632 would have been
something of an experimental
car. The braked front axle would
have been fitted as soon as
available and there is evidence
from our own archive, as well
as from the works service record,
that the car was filled with
an experimental one-piece sump,
probably early in 1926, and
that the rocker-gear was up-rated
to the separate rocker-box design,
perhaps in 1927. We do not know
why and when the coachwork was
changed to the Freestone and
Webb saloon. Family needs, perhaps?
The coachbuildcr of the first
touring body is unknown, but
I would suggest Harrison.
There is no complete story of
the experimental vintage Bentleys.
John Fasal, that most eminent
of Royce historians, has mooted
to me twice the idea of the
writing a history of the Royce
and Bentley experimental cars.
George Klepp and I owned Exp
5 for some years, a car built
as a spares car for the 1928,
1929 and 1930 Le Mans. I still
have the mortal remains of Exp
6, about which we have only
scant information, but which
was an experimental 4 1/2 Litre,
build up by the works on a re-conditioned,
crash-damaged frame and probably
used for testing the new self-wrapping
brake design, as well as engine
innovations.
The point here is that Bentley
kept his experimental work very
close to his chest. The experimental
cars were subject to great secrecy
and only driven by an inner
circle of engineers totally
loyal to W O.
I am sure the Brierley brothers
had no idea whatever that MF
1632 had contained, in its day,
several closely-guarded secrets.
To them, it would have been
a cheap old flivver to be made
into a racing special. Funny
old days." - Tim Houlding.
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Source:
'Photo Discoveries' April 2009
Posted: May 21, 2009 |
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EARLIEST
RECORD OF HISTORICAL FACTS & INFORMATION |
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Chassis No. |
164 |
Engine No.
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315 |
Registration
No. |
MF 1632 |
Date of Delivery: |
Aug 1923 |
Type of Body: |
Saloon |
Coachbuilder:
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No info |
Type of Car: |
L |
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First Owner: |
HEWITT H S |
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More Info:
Driven by Hewitt.
Michael Hay, in his book Bentley:
The Vintage Years, 1997, states:
"Freestone and Webb fabric saloon.
Cut to 9'6" WB1946. 2 seater C box 4½
engine HF 3193 ex HF 3189 22 cwt all
up (1948 with new 2 seater). Crashed
at Prescott. Eng HF 3193 in RE 1397
- ?chassis scrapped." |
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Posted: Mar 01, 2007 |
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