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1931 Bentley 8 Litre    
Original 1931 Numbers
Chassis No. YM5031
Engine No. YX5114
Registration No. GW 9650

  This car - updated
Chassis No. YM5031
Engine No. YF5016
Registration No. GW 9650

(Updated with information from owner Gerhard Roeser. - January 2009)
 
May 25, 2020
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  Source: Flickr, posted by user 'Heiner Trappmann'
Posted: Aug 06, 2020
 
     
August 10, 2014
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Pre-War Grand Prix and Sports cars, August 2014

 
     
     
  Source: Flickr, posted by user 'Antonio Fernandez'
Posted: Nov 11, 2014
 
     
January 2009
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[This car was purchased by Gerhard Roeser in 1994, and is currently owned by him.]

When I bought the car from Coys of Kensington in November 1994 it was falsely declared as being "YF5016", because that was the number on its engine and steering gear box. Its road registration at this time was "CUO 66". It had a LeMans Replica 4-Seater Open Tourer body.

In the following years I had the car totally taken to pieces for a complete rebuild of everything, including a new LeMans-Style body with correct proportions, done by Rod Jolley of Limington, GB. During the rebuild the real chassis number "YM5031" was discovered on the chassis and on the axles. The exact story, when it inherited engine + steering gear box numbered "YF5016" is unknown to me. However, the car was then in 1997 again properly registered as "YM5031" with engine "YF5016" with its original road registration number "GW 9650".

Added on Jan 14, 2009:
I don't understand Michael Hay's comment (on Chassis YF5016 page). How can someone talk about rebuilding chassis YF5016 by using the chassis + axles from YM5031? The only traces of YF5016, which I found on the car were the engine + steering gearbox, where as the crucial parts of the chassis (frame + the axles) are stamped YM 5031. I am more inclined to see it as that somebody has dropped an engine + steering gearbox stamped YF5016 into chassis YM5031; thus for me the car is YM5031 rather than YF5016.

Added on Jan 18, 2009:
Robert: Mr. Roeser (Jan 14) asks: "How can one describe rebuilding YF5016 on the chassis frame of YM5031?" I've been around Bentleys a long time, but not perhaps deeply enough into vintage Bentley lore. His question is similar to mine. Factory service records show examples of new frames being fitted to cars, in the 20s and 30s, as the result of accident damage. Did they stamp the chassis number on the new frame?... And considering how hard it is to locate the chassis number, as Mr Roeser's communication attests, are there other examples where the chassis number has gotten confused, post-original sale? — Jack Triplett, Jan 18, 2009

 
     
     
  Source: Gerhard Roeser (Owner)
Posted: Jan 13, 2009
 
     
2006
In Germany in 2006 / Owned by a BDC member
2001
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"In Port Elizabeth on 2001 International Bentley Tour of South Africa"

 
     
     
  Source: Russell Browne
Posted: Jul 11, 2013
 
     
1990
 

"...I understood that the previous owner was Mr. Brian Seymour Wiggens, who seemed to have bought the car in 1990."

 
     
     
  Source: Gerhard Roeser
Posted: Jan 14, 2009
 
     
1981
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Silverstone 1981

 
     
     
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Posted: Oct 25, 2012
 
     
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Car in the photograph
bears Reg. No. CUO 66
on the number plate
   
 
 

 

 
     
     
  Source: Gerhard Roeser
Posted: Jan 14, 2009
 
     
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Extract from a Bentley book:
"This Limousine de Ville built by Park Ward on 8-litre Chassis No. YM 5031, is believed to have been broken up post-war. Certainly the original engine YX 5114 has been fitted to Chassis No. YF 5012."

 
     
     
  Source: Gerhard Roeser
Posted: Jan 14, 2009
 
     
EARLIEST RECORD OF HISTORICAL FACTS & INFORMATION
 
Chassis No. YM5031
Engine No. YX5114
Registration No. GW 9650
Date of Delivery: Jul 1931
Type of Body: Limousine
Coachbuilder: Park Ward
Type of Car: 13
   
First Owner: HELME Lt Col E
 
     
  More Info: Michael Hay, in his book Bentley: The Vintage Years, 1997, states: "F/8057. Park Ward body no. 3460. "Lucas center lamp. Black Ace discs, Andre double duralumin bumpers, Black/white line." Broken up - engine in ch YF 5012. Frame and axle in ch. YF 5016."  
     
     
  Posted: Mar 01, 2007  
     
 
 
 
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