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1924 Bentley 3 Litre |
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Original 1924 Numbers
Chassis No. 564
Engine No. 557
Registration No. CX 6624
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This car - updated
Chassis No. 564
Engine No. -
Registration No. CX 6624
(Updated with information from Amy Petronis Rand. - January 2015) |
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January
2015 |
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Jan 30, 2015
"A quick update on Chassis no.
564. My father, Henry Petronis, is
the current owner, and I am the daughter
for whom he purchased this lovely
car. It has been fitted with a 4½
engine, as we all like to drive fast.
Plus, I'm small so the 3 litre chassis
is a good size for me. It is on the
water to the US right now, and I look
forward to getting it on the road
in a week or so. I'm a tourer, not
a shower, and I look forward to seeing
you all on the asphalt (or surface
of your choice!)."
Feb 2, 2015
"The car is not a bitsa. It has
the original crank case and transmission
housing the rest just beefed
up a bit." |
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Source:
Amy Petronis Rand (Daughter of current
owner)
Updated: Feb 02, 2015
Posted: Jan 30, 2015 |
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April
2013 |
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I am still trying
to find out what has happened to CX 6624.
Contacted the person who bought the
car from Dave Brownell then shipped
it back here.
He has a contact with the person who
purchased it. I asked him if he could
find out for me the whereabouts of
the car, so far no luck, perhaps
she is back in the States Idont know?.
But if and when I hear any thing from
him I will let you know... |
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Source:
Roy Ginn (Former owner)
Posted: Apr 30, 2013 |
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March
2012 |
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Richard Procter purchased
CX 6624 from Dave Brownell in 2011
and sold it the same year. Update
on present location of Chassis 564
from Roy Ginn:
"Car is still in UK having some
work done to the Engine? Hood Frame
is done and going back to the Trimmers.
A bit of painting may be required
to body. All I can find out is that
when finished the location will be
on the East Coast of US." |
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Source:
Roy Ginn (Former owner)
Posted: Mar 31, 2012 |
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June
2011 - December 2011 |
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Two new owners
since June 2011
This car was advertised as being
for sale in June 2011 for the asking
price of £137.500. Roy Ginn,
our invaluable contributor and former
owner of this car was able to track
the new owner Richard Proctor who
had bought this car from Dave Brownell
and his wife in the U.S. The car went
to its new home in Cheshire/Derbyshire
border (south Manchester).
Richard Proctor informed Roy Ginn
in December 2011 that he had sold
the car to someone in the U.S. who
wanted it for his daughter
"He is having a hood frame made
and weather equipment is being fitted
at this time." |
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Source:
Roy Ginn (Former owner)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 |
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2006 |
In
USA in 2006 / Owned by a BDC member |
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1971
- 1982 |
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This car was owned
by Robert Seiffert from 1971 to 1982.
"I bought the car from Frank
Dale in 1971. It needed a lot. Hoffman
and Mountfort did the mechanicals
and Jack Loveday of Stratton St. Margaret
did the trimming. During my ownership
I drove the car from Colorado to Briggs
Cunningham's museum in Costa Mesa,
California. for the '50 years on the
run' celebration. The mag drive gears
failed on the return voyage and were
redone by Dyoll Engineering in Los
Angeles. It was a super car to drive.
Bags of power. I swapped it to Bob
Sutherland (for a Lola Mk 1)." |
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Source:
Robert Seiffert (former owner)
Posted: Apr 28, 2011 |
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1966-1971 |
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1924
Bentley (Blue Label): Registration No.
CX 6624, Chassis No. 564 |
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Roy
Ginn |
The
following text is an account of the
purchase of CX 6624 and the reconditioning
and rebuild up to the time of selling
on, in Roy Ginn's words:
The year is somewhere in the mid-1960s.
Firstly, I was in the process of trying
to purchase an SS 100 Jaguar, also
in bits and pieces. I was denied this
by someone else getting to it first.
So I thought, "What the hell."
We had as a customer a Michael Grigsby
who was at that time associated with
the Rolls-Royce Club here in the U.K.
He was the instigator in me obtaining
CX 6624. He had a contact, a Forman
Landscape gardener working for the
Essex County Council. This contact
told Michael that he had found a veteran
car in a shed, in a village in Essex
and told him how to locate it. Mick,
being that sort of person, was there
in a flash. The car Mick was looking
at wasn't a 'veteran'! It was a Vintage
Bentley, namely CX 6624. To cut a
long story short, he asked the owner,
Major Douglas Forrester Muir. retired
ex-Army, how much he wanted if he
was selling it. The answer was, "If
I thought of selling it, about £1000,
but I'm not. It can stay where it
is. Michael went on to explain that
his interest was veteran cars, but
that he did know of someone who would
buy his car at a reasonable price.
The next day Michael appeared outside
Dad's Workshop and proceeded to tell
me about the car, what sort of condition
it was in and so on. An appointment
was made to view. I proceeded to the
village of Great Totham located between
Maldon and Colchester. Was shown car.
Seemed to be complete (i.e.) Engine,
Gearbox, Rear Axel. Lamps were there,
but in a box. Looked for and found
instruments. Looking good... had discussion
with owner and haggled quite a bit.
The deal was finally 'done' at £700.
CX 6624 was loaded on to my trailer
and I was off home.
Arrival home in Shoeburyness
The first thing my father said was,
"What the b***dy hell load of
junk have you gone and brought now?"
After going mad he said, "Does
it go?" "Don't know",
I said. Well after cleaning two sets
of plugs, getting top of Autovac off
and filling it up with petrol tried
to start it up.
Had a few explosions, cleaned plugs
again and again, and in the end she
started up. Had reasonable oil pressure.
Stopped engine. Had a look around
water. It was pissing out of everywhere.
You name it and it was leaking. Had
evening meal, proceeded to run engine.
Starter motor fell apart bits everywhere.
Turned car around and proceeded to
move it to a corner for the time being.
I first did some kind of inventory
as to what was of any use to the rebuild.
What remained of a body came off the
chassis. Basically the only parts
were the left hand front door. The
bonnet was complete and in not bad
condition. The body frame timbers
between the fire wall and the steering
wheel were kept. The rest of the body
was unusable, resembling a shed. These
were discarded. The entire overhaul
was carried out by my father and me
in-house.
[My father was a
time-served Coachbuilder and Wheelwright.
He worked for Parkward Coachworks,
also All Lewis's. He worked on coach
bodies and limousines, also made carriage
wheels as part of his work. Drafted
into the army for World War II. Ended
up warrant officer first class. Started
own business, car repairs and all
that goes with that. Died late 1970s.]
Body Work
As there was no body to speak of,
we had to think of where to locate
ash boards. We located two rather
rough ash boards. My father had in
the meantime been fashioning ply templates
cut to a shape not too far from that
required. Went to timber yard, negotiated
a price to cut and purchase ash. Fun
and games now start. Band saw blades
got blunt very quick, change new one,
after a while they finished the job
and said, "Don't come
back again." I think they were
glad to see the back of us. Dad pressed
on and he fashioned the bodywork.
He decided to build to connecting
bodywork between the front and rear
seating to alleviate any body movement.
The front dash panel with the instruments
in was an elm board located in a local
builder's yard.
Didn't have tachometer fitted when
I had it. Many, many long hours were
spent working on the car by me, resulting
in my mother asking if I wanted my
bed in the garage.
The body was finished in aluminium.
Bonnet repaired, wings repaired. Cellulosed
in black with red wheels. Completely
reassembled to a car able to move
under its own power.
Interior Trim Seats and Carpets
There being no seats either front
or back the car was driven by sitting
on a box to our local coach trimmers.
The firm was called J.J. Benson of
Leigh On Sea Essex. (The company has
now moved into the Aviation Business
operating from Southend on sea Airport.)
We had discussed with J.J. Benson,
himself, the finished trim to be fitted.
As the car didn't have any weather
protection it was suggested that a
leather substitute vinyl should be
used.
J.J. Bensons manufactured the complete
set of seats, door panels, and floor
covering. Finished with a brass half
round beading to finish the top surrounds
to the front and rear passenger area.
To finish off it had a tonneau cover
for the front and rear.
I sold her to Frank Dale & Stepsons
in 1971. Their remarks were "Nice
car. Just needs breathing on?" |
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Click
on thumbnail for larger view |
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When
I sold CX 6624 (in 1971) she was
black with red trim and red wheels.
Had SU carbs. All nickel bright
work.
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Nov. 1968 the local
newspaper published
the following story about
CX 6624. |
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How
to make money There's
gold in old cars
"Who says a house is the
most worth-while investment?
At least two local men have
hit upon a far more impressive
percentage increase system!
A £150 outlay of one Hadleigh
man in only eight years became
£1,500 a one thousand
per cent increase, and a Shoebury
counterpart has increased £700
to £4,500 in three years.
Who wouldn't want to be let
in on the secret? A full-time
hobby and a satisfying money
raiser. The answer? A vintage
car.
Shoebury garage owner, Mr. Roy
Ginn, of Beach Garage, Rampart
Street, picked up the wreck
of a 1924 Bentley in a shed
in Great Totham, for £700.
Three years work, a further
£700, and six first rally
prizes later the car is valued
at more than eight times the
original price.
Mr. Ginn was offered such a
price but he is not selling.
"The value goes up and
up and up. I'm entering it for
rallies and so forth, but it
is not a practical road car."
The three litre Bentley is well
known in the town, although
it has only been road worthy
for six months..." |
These
photographs were all taken in
the outside yard area of dad's
Body Shop.
The front shocks shown here are
hydraulic.
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Again,
at father's Body Shop.
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Man
at bottom-right edge of photograph
is my father, Alfred George William
Ginn.
Photo was taken in the early to
mid-1960s.
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An interesting story
that I remember was that, while rebuilding
CX 6624, dad saw an advertisement
in the wanted section of "Exchange
and Mart", a publication for
listing parts to sell, trade or that
you wanted. In the 'wanted' columns
he saw, "Wanted: 21-inch beaded
edge wheels for 3-Litre Bentley".
Guess what? A set of five came with
CX 6624. Later that same evening dad
phoned the number and spoke to the
guy and told him that we had a set
of five. There was a deafening silence.
The chap asked dad if he was serious
and not mucking about. They drove
down the following day. When they
saw the beaded edge wheels they nearly
collapsed with joy. Then they saw
CX 6624 in the corner of dad's Body
Shop. There was no stopping them.
They were all over her. To conclude
this note, there was an article in
the "BDC Review" about their
find and about CX 6624.
Photograph
was taken outside my father's
Body Shop (in 1966). She was a
mess!
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Source:
Roy Ginn, owner 1966-1971
Posted: May 10, 2007 |
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EARLIEST
RECORD OF HISTORICAL FACTS & INFORMATION |
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Chassis No. |
564 |
Engine No. |
557 |
Registration
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CX 6624 |
Date of Delivery: |
Apr 1924 |
Type of Body: |
Tourer |
Coachbuilder: |
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Type of Car: |
ST |
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First Owner: |
W. Norcliffe |
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More Info:
Michael Hay, in his book Bentley:
The Vintage Years, 1997, states:
"In USA. 4 seater by Bamber." |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2006 |
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